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    Hey Urb and Pitchfork: leave us out of it, okay?

    Posted in Music by Scott Smith on February 21st, 2008 at 7:08 am

    Like two nerds arguing over who’s got the better protractor, Chicago-based Pitchfork and Beverly Hills-based Urb magazine are in a tiff over Steve Aoki’s new mix Pillowface and His Airplane Chronicles. Pitchfork hated it, and said so in a review Urb describes as a "tirade so spiteful and unsubstantiated that it pretty much decimates any credibility the indie rock monolith had left, especially when it comes to the world of  "indie-dance" music."

    I don’t have a dog in this fight, since we’re talking about a frigging Steve Aoki album here. But then Urb had to go and say this:

    "[Pitchfork would] rather be giving Arcade Fire the obligatory handjob while posted up in their Chicago digs (Chicago indie rock, btw, is the most pretentious smarter-than-thou scene in the entire country)."

    Hey, hey, hey! Why are you bringing us into this? What did we do?

    Sure, we’ve got our share of math and orch-pop rockers, and okay, I’ll spot you a night here or there at the Empty Bottle as having air so thick with pretension that you expect the assembled crowd to to start making out with itself. But show me a local music scene that doesn’t have the same exceptions to a rule. Overall, Chicago has as much pretension as a beer fart.

    And not for nothing, but as influential as Pitchfork is in the world of music criticism, I’ve never felt that they were particularly intrinsic to Chicago’s local music scene, aside from the obvious exception of its annual music festival in Union Park though even that has a national aim, and reach.

    But Urb’s got to be a little touchy. If I lived in the metro area of Los Angeles/Beverly Hills and the most buzzworthy band my city had right now was Film School, I might start tossing around insults, too.

    (h/t The Daily Swarm)

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    10 comments
    1. Posted by Kyle on February 21st, 2008 at 9:52 am

      Any magazine that considers itself to be “indie” and exists in the mecca of popular American culture, Beverly Hills, seems a little pretentious.

    2. Posted by jt on February 21st, 2008 at 9:13 pm

      hey Lupe Fiascos, Film School are from SF. Go write another Lounge Ax memoria instead.

    3. Posted by Scott Smith on February 21st, 2008 at 9:52 pm

      Not according to them, JT.

    4. Posted by hollywood on February 21st, 2008 at 10:24 pm

      The buzzworthy band in LA is The Airborne Toxic Event. Read it and weep.

    5. Posted by paul on February 22nd, 2008 at 12:52 am

      Dont your last two sentences negate your whole “chicago isnt pretentious” argument?

    6. Posted by jt on February 22nd, 2008 at 8:32 pm

      Terrible. Who wants to pretend they are from here?

    7. Posted by Antonia on February 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 pm

      LA has Lavender Diamond and Jon Brion going for it and that’s about it. There’s too many highways in that damn city for them to even be able to have a scene.

    8. Posted by Scott Smith on February 23rd, 2008 at 8:15 am

      A couple L.A. folks have pointed out that No Age is from there, which slipped my mind.

    9. Posted by Tony on February 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

      No Age, Great Northern, Airborne Toxic Event, Hecuba, The Entrance Band, Castaneda…..the list goes on. Has Chicago even put out a decent band since Baldie and his Pumpkins?

    10. Posted by Sarah on March 1st, 2008 at 8:48 am

      Pitchfork is pretentious, yes, but that doesn’t make the entire Chicago music scene pretentious as well.

      - Sarah
      wearealwaysalwaysmortal.wordpress.com

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